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gougou -



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I think a way the Chinese government could help this problem out is by stopping abortions that are
based on the sex of the fetus and the abandonment of baby girls.

By law, the practice of determining a child's gender before birth is illegal. Actually enforcing
those laws, though, is practically impossible.



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HashiriKata -

Should those laowai who "bought" their wife from China be partially responsible for this trend ??











Luobot -



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Should those laowai who "bought" their wife from China be partially responsible for this trend ??

Actually, if that amounted to a significant enough number to impact China, then it would have a
tremendous impact on Western male:female ratios, causing a shortage of men in the west, forcing
western women to seek Chinese husbands, eventually evening things out again.










pandaxiongmao -



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They could move to Hong Kong as there are more women than men there.

Mainland Chinese need a one-way permit to move to Hong Kong. There is a low quota, something like
50 a day for such permits (though the quota has not been used up the past few years). If they are
amongst the least-educated 30 million Chinese men, I doubt they would be picked to get such a
permit. The priority is first for spouses and family that have been separated a long time, then
spouses and family that have been separated a short time, then other people.

There is also the fact that Hong Kong women are generally better-educated than mainland women. If
those men want a woman that is educated the same, or educated less than they are, Hong Kong will
be no better for them.










Xiaohua -

Send them to me! I would not mind picking a man from them.LOL!!

Back on topic- I think too that they should stop the one child policy. I was arguing with this
girl who was adament about how the one child policy in china was flawless. I told her that there
would be problems with it, and I was right. If this policy continues, then the people could
possibly die out. Because it is the women who carry the babies. And if they are decresing, then
what?! Not to mention the females who can't have children. So they really need to consider that.
Is it really so wrong for a woman to have a child?! My goodness!!










Ardison -

The root issue is the traditional value in the general public. A friend of mine has 4 daughters
just because he keeps on and wants to have a baby boy.
This is just a bit of the phenomeon in the society.
Through education the gap may turn lower, but the time taken will not be short.










gougou -



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If this policy continues, then the people could possibly die out.

Of course, the policy is not going to be carried on that long. The main point is to keep the
population at reasonable levels, which apparently it does quite a good job at - word is China's
population would be at 1.7 billion without it.

While the male-female gap is a problem, I think what is going to be more severe are the effects on
the pension system.










Xiaohua -

Gougou- I don't think that the numbers are level. Because if it was there would be no gap. I'm not
sure how long the policy will continue, but I heard that the law is in place permenately. So if
I'm wrong let me know, because I'm not sure about how long the policy is.










gougou -



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I heard that the law is in place permenately

That is most likely the case, but once they don't consider it necessary anymore, they can rescind
it pretty much over night. The people in charge are well aware of the problem and its effects
especially on rural stability, and they are doing a lot to reduce the gender imbalance. If at any
point they decide that the one-child policy's negative impact on the gender balance outweighs its
benefits to overall population development, I am sure the policy will be rescinded very quickly.










chenpv -

Well, since it is genetically decided that, without interference, approximately equal number of
both male and female babies are to be born, I am afraid I really don't see any possibility that
One-Child policy, or any regulations concerning birth rate control (if they dont go against
natural law) could be the ultimate reason of such a gender disparity in China. On the other hand,
I tend to agree with Ardison that this boy-over-girl traditional value is more responsible. Just
so much news can you get from all kinds of resources that baby girls are deserted or stealthily
murdered (sometimes by their own parents, crazy indeed.) once born, let alone those who are
aborted before coming to this world.

Quote:


Originally Posted by bhchao

I wonder what would be the effects of shifting to a two-child policy. That was a policy originally
conceived by Zhou Enlai.during the 60's.


As far as I can see, the only perceivable result of this policy would have been disastrous if it
were carried out now, given people won't be able to change their mind in treating baby boys and
girls. As long as having two boys is thought to be much better off than having only one, and
likewise one boy better than none, I cannot be too pessimistic but see an even bigger disparity
between two genders in Chinese population.

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Originally Posted by Meng Lelan

may push increasing numbers of Chinese men to move to other countries in search of partners


Well, I do doubt that China will permit such a loss of human resource in the next few years. But
there ARE some friends from Yunan that once told me 'impoverished, docile, fertile and cheap' (to
quote him, not me saying these.) females from countries bordering south China are available to: 1.
marriage; 2. having children, whom would be brought to China once born.












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