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pdsola -
I have been studying mandarin with a tutor 3 hours a week for a year now (She is chinese and
speaks english "OK" so ive been getting a good idea of the language). Im intending to go to China
beginings of next year to study the language. With the basic idea i have of the language Id like
to chose the city/program that suits the correct enviroment to learn as fast as posible. I
understand that it depends on my effort and how much time Im gonna dedicate to the program and Im
fully compromised to do what is necesary. I wanna chose a city with the least foreigners to avoid
talking english or spanish as much as posible. I have two years to learn as much as i can and i
want to make them count.
So with these objectives i have in mind wich would be the right place to go? Please tell me about
your experiences and what level and can hope to get from dedicating myself 100% to studying the 2
years.
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littleknight23 -
I am a native Chinese. I have a friend who comes from Sweden, he is studying Chinese in Chengdu.
He says there are only two Swedes, including himself, in his school so he has little chances to
speak Swedish, then both of his English and Chinese are improving quickly.
Many foreigners come to Beijing to study mandarin Chinese. If you do not want to go to a city
where there are too many foreigners, you do need to cancel Beijing from your list.
Shanghai is another large city of China. For the same reason, you had better ignore it.
Xian is another major city of China. It’s also time-honored. There must be few foreigners there.
Guangzhou is also one of the largest cities of China, but I won’t suggest you go there for your
study. As most of the local people speak Cantonese in daily life—even though you can not
understand it! Cantonese is the dialect of Chinese spoken in Canton and neighboring provinces and
in Hong Kong and elsewhere outside China. Most of our Chinese form other provinces can not
understand it. It won’t be helpful for your mandarin Chinese studying.
Suzhou won’t be a nice choice. As there are many foreigners there.
It seems Chengdu will be a better place. The foreigners living/studying in Xian must be more that
those living/studying in Chengdu.
Maybe Jinan is also a nice choice.
Sorry for my poor English. But I am sure that you can get me.
If any other questions you can also contact me at my email and MSN
MSN: littleknight23@hotmail.com
Email: littleknight23@163.com
gougou -
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If any other questions you can also contact me at my email and MSN
Or preferably, here in the forums, so others can benefit from your responses as well!
simonlaing -
I would go to a small city in the northeast. or a nanjing.
You need a place with good tones, and one with few enough westerners that you really can
concerntrate on the language.
You will need to fight the urge to learn Bar Chinese every night or earn money through part time
English teaching jobs.
Look for an established program with decent rankings from ex students and national level.
Be ready to work hard. "Learning Chinese is a 5 year lesson in patience." At the end of 5 years
you still haven't completely learned Chinese but you know patience.
Roddy is in Dalian, I have heard it is pretty and the people's speech is very standard. Though it
is cold in the winter. If you want a warmer place I advise my city of Nanjing to Study, which
altough having some wind chill in the winter and a bit of humidity in the summer is a fairly mild
city.
If you are truly passionate about it, it won't matter which good university you go to.
have fun,
Simon
Jamoldo -
Dalian is actually pretty nice given the sea breeze, far more mild than Beijing, I would say. But
that's just what I've heard, considering I was only in Dalian for the summer. But it's what people
have told me.
Dalian is fantastic. I'd suggest it for numerous reasons I've posted elsewhere (do a search on my
posts and you'll see it). Chengdu will have a bit of Sichuan-hua, though I've heard great things
about the city. Xi'an is a great place for culture and history.
PHILIP-LI -
I'm quite agree with Jamoldo. Dalian is an romantic city. I have studied here for 5 years.(I'm a
chinese student) Dalian is not too hot in summer and too cold in winter.there're lots of good
universities here.iIf you're interested in Dalian,I will tell you more!
pdsola -
I checked out Dalian and it seems like a very good option. One thing Im curious about though is
the accent, is it like the one from Beijing? cause ive heard of some cities that you will get a
particular accent that isnt common. My tutor is from Tianjin and she only recommends Beijing,
Shanghai and Tianjin. She is very stubborn and every time i mention another city she says
something like "they have a funny accent or its too far away or something of sorts..." I value her
recommendations but i rather take some from people who have studied and lived it.
Another thing, what University or Program you recommend in Dalian? The smaller the group in the
class the better i think, and what are the chances of living with a Chinese family? I think living
with chinese will accelerate my understanding of the language. Please give any suggestions in the
matter, Thanks
Suvlaco -
You might also like to look into Xi'an. It's a relatively large city with very few foreigners.
Having lived there for 5 months, I didn't meet any foreigners that lived there, and I went out to
public bars, clubs, uni's and parks a lot. I met several who were on holiday, but none living
there.
I'm going there to learn Chinese soon, starting uni on March 1 but arriving Dec 12. If you want
any more info let me know.
simonlaing -
The northeast has it's own local dialect language but most of the people I met from there it
doesn't affect their language.
In fact their tones and speaking might be better than beijing and Tianjin because those places
like to add er to the ends of most words.
Xian I have not spent much time but like Sichuan and other western provinces it probably has more
dialect affect on their mandarin speaking. Although as said before capital cities of provinces
this is less of a problem, I still think the northeast is the place to go. Also Beijing and
Shanghai you can be easily distracted by western food and western bar activities.
Good luck,
Simon
muyongshi -
I disagree on Xian. I know a few people that are from Xian and I find them to have one of the
better mandarin accents. Not heavily polluted by the er sound, but definitely no a southern style
of speaking like in Sichuan. And also I have been told that most people in Xian look down on
anyone who uses a dialect because they are "farmers".
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